SNG GRINDERS

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15/03/2010 11:22
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Pues eso, el otro dia curioseando jugadores de sng me encuentro con esta pagina de coach y a ver si alguien ha visto sus videos o conoce su foro que tal si lo recomiendan.

16/03/2010 21:50
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casi cien lecturas y ninguna respuesta, os dejo los resultados de sus profesores que parecen interesantes.....

16/03/2010 22:24
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Por lo poco que se la mejor pagina de sits. Vi algun video y estaba muy bien

17/03/2010 00:01
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vaya cracks, yo estoy empezando en los sits

17/03/2010 00:04
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el sitio es exelente, sin dudarlo, si se sabe ingles....EV+por donde se lo mire. IMO

17/03/2010 00:48
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¿Se puede ver algún vídeo gratis o son todos de pago?

18/03/2010 15:07
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Weno sorry por no haberme dado cuenta del hilo, haber la opinion que os puedo dar es que si manejais el ingles el sitio os va a compensar ya que os dan 3 meses y la suscripcion no recuerdo bien pero creo que eran como 30$ o asi. Aun asi me sneto bastante mal que la web presume de ofrecer articulos que cualquiera que no haya entrado piensa que realizan analisis de situaciones de ICM explican la estrategia basica en distinto niveles de ciegas etc. pues bien he de decir que los articulos es una estafa, son muy pobres en contenido, apenas hay 9 articulos y mañana si tengo mas tiempo os cuelgo algunos para que os riais un rato...

En conclusion la suscripcion no sale demasiado cara porque dan 3 meses pero para darle rendimiento es indispensable el ingles porque solo sacaras rendimiento de los videos que solo cuentan con unos 300 creo.Quizas por ello me quedaria con stoxpoker - World Class Poker Training antes ya que hay muxisimos mas videos de todos los tipos y muchos de ellos subtitulados. Aun asi os digo que no le dedicado apenas tiempo a la pagina porque me volvi a pasar a cash y aun tengo 2 meses de suscripcion, si alguno me lo pide miro mas a fondo para darle mas info o le copio y pego algun articulo de los que hay para que veais.

18/03/2010 19:30
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Gracias por la respuesta, deseoso estoy de leer algun articulo de esos.....

19/03/2010 08:03
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ncreasing your ROI Weno pos aki tienes uno de sus articulos......espero comentarios plz

Improving ROI without improving your sng strategy.



Download e-pamphlet.



The strategy demonstrated by the trainers on sitngogrinders if applied to your game should result in an increased ROI. After all it is the same strategy demonstrated that allows these players to make their living from sitngo's. However it is important to consider every potential avenue open to you when trying to increase your ROI. This article will demonstrate that simple changes to the way you play poker can have very significant effects on the amount of profit you generate. I will demonstrate how many players can increase their ROI by 2-3% without playing any differently.

Sizzlinbetta has already written an excellent article on table selection and if you haven't read it yet then I highly recommend it. Employing a good table selection strategy can increase your profits dramatically as Sizzlin demonstrates. I won't focus on this here as it's already been covered.

Other areas covered by articles on sitngogrinders which will help you cover ICM (articles by Darinvg and thelipofund), Multitabling (covered by Tigerbalm) and Understanding Variance (by Azntracker.

One area that hasn't yet been covered but which could potentially have the biggest impact on your ROI is simply where you choose to play. If you look at the benefits of reaching Supernova elite status with Pokerstars you'll see that even a break even player paying this much rake ($200k / year) to Stars will make around $110k / year plus gain entry to a £10k buy in tournament. To relate this to an increase in ROI for a supernova elite player, lets say we have $225 regular. Paying $15 in rake he / she will play around 1100 games in a month. With just over $9000 in rakeback a month that's almost $9 per game. In terms of ROI its an additional 4% (not counting the entry to the $10k buy in event).

Admittedly most of us won't be reaching supernova elite status any time soon, but the principle applies if you're not getting rakeback. Lets take a $16 9 man grinder who plays 100 games / week. Paying $1 per game. Playing on Stars, if you saved up all your FPPs for the year you'd just about get a $650 reward bonus. Playing on Full Tilt without rakeback you'd get next to nothing (maybe a nice T-shirt). With 33% rakeback from Cake Poker you'd get nearly $1600, on Full Tilt at 27% rakeback you'd get nearly $1300 (you'd also get free training with the sitngogrinders rakeback promotion).

So in the example of a $16 grinder playing around 14 games / day gets an additional $0.33 per game in profit with rake back an additional 2% ROI without changing a thing other than the site you play on.

If you are not getting rakeback and you're not Supernova elite on Pokerstars it's probably a good idea to investigate the other options. You will probably find that the sites offering rakeback have softer games than the sites that are big enough not to worry too much about paying for your loyalty.

19/03/2010 21:03
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....pues no se muy bien que comentar, la verdad, parece mas bien la publicidad de una pagina de afiliaciones de rake para highstackers (hazte SNE chacho, que es cojonudo LOLLLLLL).... si todos los articulos aprofundizan tanto (ironia mode on) pues me quedaria con bastante cara de gilipollas habiendo pagado por eso.... venga va, apuesto a que puedes colgar alguno con mas chicha...

20/03/2010 15:02
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Te colgue ese xq es del que mas aprendi :D

Ahi va otro. Icm an introduction

You could’ve asked me this time last year what ICM meant, and my best guess would’ve been somewhere along the lines of Ice Cream Machine or Italian Cheese Melt, but as I’ve started to take poker more seriously, those 3 little letters have made me enough money to buy me all of the ice cream and Italian cheese I could ever dream of.





So what is ICM you ask? In this article and the ones to follow, I will answer that question and many more. We will address both the merits and shortcomings of ICM; how it can be applied, and when it should be ignored. I am not a math person by nature, so everything I say will be kept as basic as possible. I’m not here to show you how to derive equations, or calculate approximate equity in your head. I just want to give you some basic guidelines to point you in the right direction, should the more complex stuff appeal to you. So here we go….



ICM is an acronym which stands for Independent Chip Modeling. If you’re like me, that doesn’t make any more sense than the 3 letters standing by themselves. So let’s just skip around the big words and give a practical definition. ICM is a mathematical model that you can use to aid you in decision making. It takes into account your current chip stack, the chip stacks of your opponent, the blinds, the prize pool, and the prize structure. From there it determines your current equity in the tournament. Equity is simply a mathematical estimate of the current value of your chip stack. Once you have your equity, you compare your current equity to the equity you would have if you made a certain decision. If your equity would be higher by making a certain move, then that is the move you should make.



As you see from my explanation above, there are a lot of variables that go into calculating equity and this ICM stuff. It would be both tedious and unnecessary to do all of this on your own. There is a great program out there known as SNGWizard that can do all of this for you in a split second. Every serious SNG player I know, who has made more than $10,000 has purchased SNGWizard. It is by and far the best $100 investment you can make for yourself, and I’m not even talking about just poker here. Simply put, this is the bargain of bargains.



As if calculating equity wasn’t complicated enough, there is still one more problem in this whole equation: What is our opponent’s hand? Now you know as well as I do, that we can NEVER know this for sure since poker is a game of incomplete information. So we must assign our opponent a range of hands to our opponent. This can be difficult for newer players to do, since when you first start playing you only think linearly, about your own moves. Then you start thinking about what your opponent is doing. The easiest way to put an opponent on a range is to think what you would do if you were in their shoes. Let’s say we raise, someone re-raises, someone re-raises again, and then someone else shoves all-in. We’re sitting back on our original raise with Pocket Eights. What is someone going to re-raise all-in with? I would guess a range of something like QQ+, but it’s probably closer to KK+ (meaning only pocket kings and pocket aces). Given the tight range we can assign to our opponent, we know our 88 has very little equity against his hand. As time goes on, and you encounter the same spots over and over again, you will be able to assign ranges to your opponents faster and more accurately. To help get you started, SNGWizard has default ranges installed within their software that work great.



So now that we have SNGWizard and can calculate our equities of certain decisions, whether Fold/Call/All-In, we are ready to start learning which spots are profitable and which aren’t. Here are a few tricks I’ve learned until next time, when we can go a bit more in depth after you’ve studied up a bit.



It is ALWAYS better to be the one pushing all-in as opposed to the one calling an all-in. Think about it like this, when we push all-in we have two ways to win the pot: our opponents can fold, or they can call and we can win at showdown. Rather when we call an all-in, the only way we win the pot is if we win at showdown. So always be the aggressor.When you have a short stack, ICM tells you to fold too much, not taking into consideration future events. So when you are below 5 big blinds, shove wider than ICM might suggest. But make sure to do so with hands that are going to have equity when your opponents call. Moving all-in with suited connectors is a very good move since you’ll have live cards against your opponents calling range.It is better to shove 10 Big blinds at 100/200 than it is to shove 10 Big Blinds at 50/100. This is because you take more of the total chips in play. Thus, survival is important within a SNG.Nobody plays perfectly, so take this into account. We don’t want to be shoving a lot of poor hands into someone who is going to be calling us with poor hands too. Shoving is most profitable when they fold, their calling with hands like T7o rains on our parade and makes us adjust our ranges accordingly.You can make profitable shoves all day, and still lose money. Poker is all about the long run, so keep that in mind when you’re getting unlucky.

21/03/2010 17:00
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Yo he estado afiliado ahi bastante tiempo, y si sabes ingles los videos valen la pena. Yo juego sits turbo y basicamente veia los de darinvg y los de glitlr (que es como un profesor invitado) que aparte de videos de sit n go tambien hace otros bastante interesantes de como usar el sitngo wizard y otros tipo test donde te pone una captura de pantalla de una situacion y tienes que pensar que harias tu ahi, y luego el te explica cual es el movimiento correcto y porque. Estos estan chulos porque son situaciones complicadas todo el video.

Yo te recomiendo que si sabes ingles la pruebes, la inscripcion de 3 meses no es tan cara, y algunas cosas ya las sabras pero seguro que aprendes algo...

21/03/2010 17:21
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Lo de azntracker es increible, lo he seguido algunas veces en los sit's and go de niveles altos y me encanta su juego. Solo hay que fijarse en su gráfica de ganancias...

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